Coffee and drinks to get the job done or must you be on time to be professional?

There are many discussions surrounding the article Roll call at exactly 7:30, then leisurely drink coffee, have breakfast, and slowly work? on Tuoi Tre Online .

Wandering around drinking coffee and having breakfast after roll call is a common habit of many office workers - Photo: WHITE CLOUD

Slow and steady wins the race: a no-brainer

Sharing about this issue, reader Kennedy commented that working and then going out to drink coffee and have breakfast after roll call is not good.

He wrote: "You should practice working on time to be professional. My company has a working time of 8:30. And I was there before 8:20. Work when you work, play when you play."

Sympathizing, Mr. Tien said that for the past 11 years, he has always been on time for work. "In the afternoon, if there is no work, my colleagues and I will go home early. As long as there is work, we will still do it. The company does not require us to start work at 8am and leave at 5pm. I have never been complained by the HR department," he shared.

Reader Tran Tuan briefly shared: "Businesses spend money to have employees work on time." Mr. Vinh Loc suggest: "There's no need to go to the inspection room to see if they're there. Just go to the restaurants and cafes around that your employees like and you'll find them right away."

About management method, Mr. Tai shared that, at his company, everyone entering and leaving the door must swipe their fingerprints. He expressed: "Going to the toilet also requires swiping your fingerprints. There is no such thing as wandering around eating breakfast or coffee. HR calculates the time spent in the office."

Similarly, Mr. Nguyen Nhat Dang said that the place where he works is managed according to the prescribed hours and closes after 5 minutes. It opens after 15 minutes, he signs up to the emulation committee and notifies the unit.

Shouldn't working hours be too rigid?

Many people think that productivity is important. Don't be too strict about working hours and being present at the company - Photo: MAY TRANG

Ms. Hoang Mai noticed that in many businesses, if employees are late, their salary will be deducted. In response, reader Xb… said that being on time just to get by "isn't the point". "Just assign work, it has to be completed. Some people just sit there and do nothing. If you come in on time and leave on time, how can the company develop?", this reader shared.

Similarly, reader 083 … found that we should not be too strict about punctuality. Accordingly, if we are punctual but not productive, it is worse than going out for coffee and dating.

"The company's environment and culture should create conditions for everyone to contribute, develop, ensure KPIs, and work enthusiastically. This is an important feature. The timekeeping machine is just a formality," this reader advised.

Reader Huynh suggested setting a later working hour, from 8am or 8:30am, because 7:30am is too early.

Mr. Hieu Dan thinks that we should consider work efficiency, salary and bonus... He supports completing tasks excellently rather than sitting in the office 8 hours a day without getting anything done.

Ms. Kathy Hoang shared that depending on the company, if the manager allows it, you can work flexible hours. "Otherwise, you won't be able to work for long. Unless you are too good, too valuable. But it's best not to affect other people's work."

Depending on the nature, balance working hours

Older brother Zhang Jie assume Each business has its own way of management. Not everyone is required to be present at work at set hours. He expressed:

Which worker can have breakfast and drink coffee when they are already on their production shift?

Creative people just get their work done. No one forces them to be at their desk on time.

Labor discipline is decided and supervised by the company owner and business leader . Anyone who does not comply will be subject to disciplinary action according to company regulations...

Therefore, it is no longer necessary to force everyone to be on time . We must move to management based on the level of work completed.

Sharing with Mr. Kiet, reader Nena Pham expressed that working in a production line cannot be "slow". " There are production lines where the products are pulled from input to output by a cable at a speed of meters per minute, for example. Anyone who cannot keep up will be eliminated immediately," she wrote.

Mr. Trong agreed that Working in a service or commercial office can be flexible in terms of hours. SOS readers have similar opinions. And the important thing is to have enough KPIs. Sometimes employees enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning but leave late in the afternoon because they haven't met their deadlines.

"I also like to manage by work, not by time," this reader shared.

Discipline makes a good employee

Blue Moon reader expressed:

Convenience stores have office workers stationed there, but the office still doesn't have any employees even when it's time to work. It's too early to start work, there's no time for breakfast, so it's reasonable for people to stop by late to eat.

However, do not abuse time and lack discipline. Discipline makes a diligent employee and makes achievements.

Public administrative agencies must receive citizens on time.

Reader Manh Dung expressed that companies and businesses operate and manage their own way. But public administrative agencies and state officials must be on time when receiving citizens.

Reader Windy said that when working with state agencies today, there is still a waiting situation.

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